morzas
Ronin Warlock
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Post by morzas on Sept 24, 2007 10:51:22 GMT -5
This article is interesting. Most top players hate Para-FoD, even though they will use it on occasion. I was one of the warlocks most notoriously disinclined to use it. Obviously, the top warlocks are not "scrubs", as your article puts it. What's going on? Oh, I'm referring to people who think that Para-FoD is unbeatable or overpowered. Choosing not to use simply because you don't like it is different from what I'm talking about, that's a matter of style. This sort of thing is what I'm referring to.
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Derfel
Ronin Warlock
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Troublemaker
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Post by Derfel on Sept 24, 2007 11:30:49 GMT -5
Scrub? That *so* should have been one of the post-count titles!
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Post by Dubber on Sept 24, 2007 14:56:15 GMT -5
Heh, add "scrub" in as the label for the 500-600 posts count label - that'll encourage people like me to be less posty
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Post by Dubber on Sept 24, 2007 15:55:41 GMT -5
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Derfel
Ronin Warlock
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Post by Derfel on Sept 24, 2007 16:02:55 GMT -5
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Post by freesoul on Sept 24, 2007 17:28:00 GMT -5
I definitely see a relation between playing warlocks and poker.... I think that this game taught me a ton on playing position and bluffing. I think even my warlocks playing style flowed into my poker style. Sorry for the off-topic. You live in Detroit, right? You should come to some of our home games, although usually I don't play, I live in a house with 2 other pros so there's usually a game going. BTW Xade, alcohol doesn't really affect the way I play games. Maybe that's just me though. That sounds like fun. Although, I can only boast to be about as good as the average amateur. I did pretty well in my weekly home tourney's in college... but haven't played much since. Hoping to hop over to one of the casino's one day get a feel for some real competition.
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 24, 2007 17:48:53 GMT -5
I have to say, re the "advanced moves vs. winning" thing, you do get a certain level of kudos for advanced moves (remember my time-stopped permanent amnesia, Tali? but I guess it's just knowing (and accepting) you can't do things like that all the time, or you'd get eaten.
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Post by xade on Sept 24, 2007 18:07:54 GMT -5
This is the same reason you find "scrubs" promoting Confusion, while I've never seen anyone > 1800 promote it (with the queer exception of Xade). heh... there's nothing wrong with playing a game that involves Dice... (though there is a degree of elegance to maladroit...)
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Derfel
Ronin Warlock
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Post by Derfel on Sept 24, 2007 18:46:53 GMT -5
I think most 1800+ players don't like Confusion, because most 1800+ players don't like chance, or risk, or luck.
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Post by freesoul on Sept 24, 2007 19:11:49 GMT -5
I think most 1800+ players don't like Confusion, because most 1800+ players don't like chance, or risk, or luck. I think a main reason why 1800+ players play mala, is because that's what the top players play... I think i mainly started playing it to simply learn the variant and therefore to be able to challenge the top players. Now I'm stuck with it. The other reason why high ELO players don't like confusion, is because it does give a low ELO opponent more of a chance to luck out a win.... which could cost the high ELO player a fortune of hard earned points. No real risk/rewards payoff. Of course this doesn't apply to equal ELO opponents. Thusly, I'd play someone (like Xade) in a confusion battle... but the trick is to remember that you're playing confusion.
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Derfel
Ronin Warlock
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Post by Derfel on Sept 24, 2007 19:14:58 GMT -5
Yeah, nothing like giving over your analysis to a bit of random chance, eh?
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Post by awall on Sept 24, 2007 19:17:00 GMT -5
The reason I started playing mala was because there isn't really an alternative to DS/PS in confusion. Mala had far more possibilities for openings, at least until DS/PW came along.
I'm really hoping that I or somebody else can eventually come up with something to dethrone D/P, which is why you've seen me bouncing other openings around recently.
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 24, 2007 19:37:09 GMT -5
The reason I started playing mala was because there isn't really an alternative to DS/PS in confusion. Mala had far more possibilities for openings, at least until DS/PW came along. Exactly what I said. I'm really hoping that I or somebody else can eventually come up with something to dethrone D/P, which is why you've seen me bouncing other openings around recently. Yeah I do that. I don't think it's totally defunct.
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 24, 2007 23:31:22 GMT -5
I would play maladroit whether or not anyone else did. I actually like elements of random chance a lot -- IFF they are repeated frequently enough that the results are hard to predict in any given episode but fairly easy to generalize about over time. Opening confusion is a forced one-shot somebody-gets-ahead die roll, and FoD is a one-shot that ends the game. I don't like those.
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 24, 2007 23:32:21 GMT -5
Ack, does this make me a scrub today? Scrubber?
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