Game variant - purchasing spells

[Rycchus]

admin said:

You *cannot* choose not to cast an elemental or storm by targetting it at nobody, so I would almost recommend making them free as well. Otherwise what happens if I need to clap mirror after a coincidental SWW?

Not quite true - ice elementals can be counterspells at nobody.


What's the reasoning behind SSFP being cheaper than WWFP?

[Derfel]

When I first scanned this thread, I thought you were suggesting a "limited" number of spells to be purchased, almost like ammunition. Say, 3 Goblins, 2 Protections, 2 Lightning Bolts and a FoD. Now I get it.

[Rycchus]

That'd be funny. Especially when people ran out!
>>>>>
PPPPPP
>>>>>
PPPPP
ad infinitum.


I like the idea of buying a limited number of paralyses.

[vermont]

Hmm. The limited spell idea is an interesting one, but not what I intended in this variant. You can probably work that concept into a completely different one.

Resist Cold is cheaper than Resist Heat because Resist Heat is a defense against an additional spell. It could certainly be changed though.

[Derfel]

What about an increasing amount depending on how many of a certain spell you purchase? Sort of a supply/demand market scheme.

For example - paralysis costs 2 points to start, but then 3 points for the next one, then 4 for the third, etc.

[Slartucker]

The limited number idea sounds horrendous. Either you can buy so many spells that the decision of what to buy isn't particularly meaningful, of you can buy a small enough number that there is little to no strategy involved in play.

[nawglan]

This looks like it has some potential. I would still vote for keeping the 2 variants of blindness, counterspell, timestop separate but only give the name not the variant in the list sent to the opponent. Just to bring in some doubt... which will he use?

Would this be played on RB's warlocks website? I might be able to help out writing code for another server... This way, the server will keep track of the different spellbooks that each warlock can use. *shrug*

[vermont]

Toyo and I had a fine game where we sent the list number of our choices to each other along with our opening moves. Making the first move in the 'dark' was somewhat interesting. I don't see a need to keep which blindness you picked secret, because most other spells would not have any secretive element to their selection, and certain spells 2 variants are priced differently (timestop, for example.)

And if you use a spell that you shouldn't (unless forced to by your opponent) then you surrender. Easy as eating pancakes.

One more thought - how about folks try a game or two with the current setup before offering more suggestions

Cheers!

[overmage]

I like this idea, so I'm giving it a bump. PM me for a go.

[vermont]

Did anyone besides Toyo and I ever give this a try? It was an interesting variant - one I'd be up for trying again, but I would sort of like someone else to give it a try.

Maybe I just need to win the league to make you all play! Ha! (But I'd like it more fleshed out before then to avoid a couple dozen questions that hadn't come up yet.)

Thoughts?

[Slartucker]

This is a completely alternate format, not just a rule change, so the league probably isn't a good place to test it.

[vermont]

Fair enough. It was more of a hollow threat - I can't imagine everyone trying to use it for all their league matches.

[xade]

I'll be up for giving it a try if anyone wanted to.

[Derfel]

I had a thought a few nights back (after a few beers, mind you) that a rechargable "account" of points would be interesting to implements.

Generally, you start out with, say, 50 points to purchase a limited number of spells. As the game goes on, you receive so many points per round that allow you to purchase more spells. You can cast spells that allow you to recover points more quickly, so you have to worry about both health and points to be able to succeed.

Seems complicated now that I explain it. Nevermind.

[xade]

I like the concept. Perhaps a standard gesture could raise your points?

D=1 point, P=2 points, F=-1 point.