Warlocks and Real life

[dni]

So, for explaining, some minds of subject.

Palm. The gesture of absolute defence. When you show a palm, a strong energy shield will appear around you. Palm can bring to you a feeling of safety but you must remember that it consumes your energy to protect you. The double-p gesture is so powerful that it can move you out the imagine world.

Snap. The gesture of sly and unexpected tricks (don't you ever cross your fingers from the back?) Every time when you use snap, you make somekind of nasty things. Dependent of other gestures, the power of snap can be from easy joke like magic missile (which power can be used not more than fireworks) to mighty and unstoppable spell like finger of death.

Digit. The gesture of spell direction. A hand with digit points on you makes you uncomfortable 'cause you feel potential danger of subsequent gestures. The person can improve the force of future spell, although the final direction of spell can be rounded back to spellcaster.

Wave. The gesture of unstableness and flexibility. Each player knows hidden power of wave gesture. When you use wave, the space around you begins to dim and shimmer so your opponent can't direct his spells properly. By its force, the wave gesture can strongly power up the others.

Fingers. The gesture of own. This gesture make your spell grabbing opponent's hands and spells. The fingers gesture can gather and hold spellpower of you or your opponent. After showing a fingers, all light of spell force will be collected around your hands. Simply targetting of this light you can release your spell everywhere you want.

Clap. The gesture of space inverse. Clapping cause you immediately split all of world space and making it upside-down. This gesture can disorient your opponent and let him thinking a lot before he continues. However, clapping is dangerous for you too 'cause you need to regain conscious after it.

Stab. The gesture of courage and reckless. Stab is simple and straight way to attack while your opponent is gathering spellpower. With knife in you hand you can be so brave so undefended of unexpected attacks.

No gesture. The gesture of despair. Sometimes you feel yourself so sick and unable to do anything. Choosing of no gesture is, of course, a right choice for ceasing battle and make a breathing-space.

[Rycchus]

You should have suggested your interpretations before people voted. I get the feeling we were all voting for different things

I would call snap a funky gesture rather than a tricksy one

[Slartucker]

I like your interpretations. I would suggest that Snap is basically a power-gathering gesture, based on how it appears in the game: paritcularly being triple-repeated in DWSSSP and PWPFSSSD, and doublecast in PPWs. You can then say that Wave is a power-spreading gesture, which works well when you examine fire and ice gesture variation.

[Rycchus]

Power-spreading interpretation works nicely with summons and counter/protections alike.

[dni]

2 Rycchus:

You should have suggested your interpretations before people voted.

Everyone of us can have personal feeling of it. Publication of my mind don't make sense if it will be read as definitions.

I would call snap a funky gesture rather than a tricksy one

M-m-m... which translation of 'funky' must i use?.. Try to write all that i understood: 'funky' can be 'agressive', 'cool', 'excellent', 'scared', 'cowardly', 'sensual', 'rude' and even 'stinky'. Unbeleivable!

2 Slartucker:

I would suggest that Snap is basically a power-gathering gesture, based on how it appears in the game

Oh, it's interesting. I was feel 'SSS' as 'great secret' The explanations of gestures need to be corrected or re-writed.

You can then say that Wave is a power-spreading gesture, which works well when you examine fire and ice gesture variation.

I may fully compare 'W' gesture with 'Blue' magic in MTG, but i can't say it by words. It may be spreading, as you write, too. By the way, my gesture for this time of my life is, of course, 'W'.

[Rycchus]

I just meant that the vote doesn't really mean anything, as the three W votes could all mean different things, maybe one guy thinks he's being friendly, another thinks he's being flexible and yet another thinks he's being defensive. It would be interesting to have another poll to see what people would vote based on your descriptions

[Slartucker]

Interesting:

P - white
W - blue
S - black
D - red
F - green

[ExDeath]

admin said:

Interesting:

P - white
W - blue
S - black
D - red
F - green

Hmmm that's interesting, I would actually equate F with black since it's a part of all the direct life-affecting spells, and it's the end of Paralysis/Charm as well as the defining part of summons. S doesn't remind me too much of any particular color.

Edit: Oh wait, get this...S is red since it's part of both storms/elementals which would be blue/red spells, and also fireball/finger of death. Lightning bolt should be red too but it's kind of a force of nature, so it could arguably be in green's domain.

I'm sure I'm way overthinking this though.

[Slartucker]

Here were my thoughts. P as white is pretty obvious for the defensive spells. W as blue is easy given counterspells. Although I'd like to put red as S for the elemental pairing, other spells with prominent S's have themes that are distinctly un-red. Well, SFW is very red, but SWD is black, SPFP and SPPFD are blue, DWSSSP is blue, PPws is maybe white. Let's come back to it.

Green can't be D, because D is the only gesture never used in summons, and that would be wrong. D however is used in both fireball and lightning bolt, two defining red spells.

...actually, come to think of it, all the summonable creatures are red. Goblins and giants are red, trolls are usually red, and ogres were originally just red. Hmm. Perhaps red ought to be F. That leaves S and D.

Okay, this is too messy to work. However...

Anyone else remember the old style 5 color multiplayer games, with 1 color per player? It's pretty easy to divvy up most of these spells.

White -- Shield, Protection, Cure Light, Cure Heavy, Remove Enchantment, Dispel Magic, Invisibility
Blue -- Counter Spell, Anti-Spell, Time Stop, Permanency, Amnesia, Resist Heat, Ice Elemental, Ice Storm, Magic Mirror, Charm Monster, Delay Effect, Clap, Magic Missile
Green --
Red -- Summons, Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Resist Cold, Fire Elemental, Fire Storm, Confusion, Haste, Clap of Lightning
Black -- Finger of Death, Fear, Blindness, Disease, Poison

See, this is why we can't place Green.

[spez]

If I may add to this discussion, I think you're compairing the monsters in Warlocks with the monsters in MtG using their names.

IMHO, Monsters should be green, since that's what mostly is the Green color (with monster "enhencements").

Except the elementals...

hmmm... it's not an easy 1->1 conversion.

[dni]

2 Slartucker:
I've gather some statistics of Warlocks' spells and make and .ods table of it. The results of balanced distribution of spell gestures are:
Black: F (1,63 gesture/spell ratio);
Blue: S (1,33);
Green: W (1,25);
Red: D (1,22);
White: P (1,33).

Short spell list:
Black: Blindness, Disease, Poison, Paralysis, Finger of Death, Fear, Cause Light Wounds.
Blue: Summon Ice Elemental, Delay Effect, Charm Monster, Charm Person, Time Stop, Counter Spell, Ice Storm.
Green: Cure Heavy Wounds, Cure Light Wounds, Summon Goblin, Summon Ogre, Summon Troll, Summon Giant, Haste, Permanency.
Red: Dispel Magic, Summon Fire Elemental, Lightning Bolt, Confusion, Fireball, Magic Missile, Fire Storm, Clap of Lightning, Cause Heavy Wounds.
White: Magic Mirror, Amnesia, Shield, Remove Enchantment, Invisibility, Anti-Spell, Resist Cold, Resist Heat, Protection.

Full table with calculations may be sended by email (dni[@]izh.com).

[ExDeath]

Hmm so cause light is black but cause heavy is red? Dispel also seems more white to me. Pretty good list though.

[Slartucker]

I'd question Anti-Spell being white and not blue, and possibly Amnesia -- seeing as there is a card called Amnesia, and it is blue. Haste is a consistently red keyword, and the spell effect makes no sense for green. Permanency being green confuses me as well.

[ExDeath]

I like permanency being green, because green is all about creature enchantments. And the summons can be green regardless since it doesn't get much else.

[Derfel]

Funny how this thread went from "Warlocks in Real Life" to "Warlocks in another made up game universe".

Man, are we nerds or what?