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Post by Slartucker on Sept 2, 2007 12:13:36 GMT -5
Round 1 won't begin till the coming weekend, but I'm sending advance warning: it will involve pods of FIVE and therefore you will be required to play FOUR simultaneous games. If you are an unregistered warlock, take heed! Clear your games! Some simple cooperation with others in your pod should enable even unregistered warlocks to play all four games at once. However, given that registering warlocks has about the highest value-for-cost ratio you will EVER find in the gaming world, I have zero sympathy for unregistered users. If you are unable to complete your games in time because you're unregistered, the tournament will treat it just like you are a slow player who doesn't enter moves. The moral of the story is: register. The server doesn't run for free, and RavenBlack deserves your support.
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Derfel
Ronin Warlock
Did I Do That?
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Post by Derfel on Sept 2, 2007 21:42:33 GMT -5
So the key is to play slower against unregistered players?
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 3, 2007 19:33:13 GMT -5
I believe both parties are equally penalised. But I like the way you think
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 3, 2007 22:41:23 GMT -5
No -- read the rules. If a player is too slow to give his opponent a reasonable chance to play out the fight, and his opponent isn't slow, the slow player will be declared the loser.
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Post by dni on Sept 4, 2007 0:49:58 GMT -5
About registering. Slartucker, I have spend much time to know how to send payments to PayPal from Russian Federation. It's not so easy procedure, and I can't do it for now, even I really want to do it. So what I need to do then if I can't free four games till weekend? Must I surrender for it?
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morzas
Ronin Warlock
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Post by morzas on Sept 4, 2007 1:10:48 GMT -5
Maybe you could ask RB for half-reg status just for the tournament?
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Post by ExDeath on Sept 4, 2007 3:24:32 GMT -5
*senses RavenBlack's inbox will soon be flooded*
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 4, 2007 5:50:45 GMT -5
No -- read the rules. If a player is too slow to give his opponent a reasonable chance to play out the fight, and his opponent isn't slow, the slow player will be declared the loser. Well then Derfel, you'd be the one losing More seriously, Slarty, how do you work out who was the slow one if both players claim they were fast?
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 4, 2007 9:29:32 GMT -5
Maybe you could ask RB for half-reg status just for the tournament? *senses RavenBlack's inbox will soon be flooded* Gah!! No, don't do this! *facepalm* The vast majority of players have no excuse that they are unable to register. As I have already said, it is entirely possible to play the tourney without being registered; it just requires a little cooperation and probably clearing your slate of games so that you can start two or three yourself. That's why I put this warning out a week in advance. It is entirely possible to be unregistered and play all the games fine.If anyone who has the ability to register whines into being half-registered, I'll be irate. Sorry if I sound a bit harsh about this. I just find it kind of absurd that people use RB's resources for years but won't even cough up five bucks to support it. Registrations don't even cover all of the cost of maintaining warlocks; it not like RB's actually making a profit. No -- read the rules. If a player is too slow to give his opponent a reasonable chance to play out the fight, and his opponent isn't slow, the slow player will be declared the loser. More seriously, Slarty, how do you work out who was the slow one if both players claim they were fast? This is a problem I've dealt with a lot before, when I used to run various flavours of CCGs (e.g., Magic: the Gathering) tournaments, and that's why I set the rules this way. The first step is that if someone is playing too slow to finish in time, their opponent NEEDS to notify the Judge. The Judge can then monitor the game and see if this is really the case. I would never assume someone is slow just because their opponent makes a claim of it; it needs to be determined objectively. The claim is important however to make sure the Judge monitors that game closely.
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 4, 2007 9:35:20 GMT -5
Ah okay. So if you have a slowbie opponent, do you point this out before the time is up?
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 4, 2007 9:40:50 GMT -5
About registering. Slartucker, I have spend much time to know how to send payments to PayPal from Russian Federation. It's not so easy procedure, and I can't do it for now, even I really want to do it. So what I need to do then if I can't free four games till weekend? Must I surrender for it? Well, if you want to register, you can also buy RavenBlack's book, which should be doable in any country. The link to buy it is on the registration page as well. If you don't register, you just need to clear the games on your account. Looking at your account, I'd suggest you surrender in the two friendly melees, because melees take forever to finish. Friendly melees don't affect any of your stats (other than games played). I'd consider surrendering in the melee melee as well, as it will only cost you one melee point (and no Elo). That would allow you to start one game and have two started by somebody else. For the fourth game, you could either forfeit (if there is someone in your pod you are sure you will lose to anyway) or you could surrender your Friendly duel if it doesn't end by the tourney start (at a cost of 8 or 9 Elo).
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 4, 2007 9:41:57 GMT -5
Ah okay. So if you have a slowbie opponent, do you point this out before the time is up? Yes, definitely. The rules already state this, but I'll edit that sentence just to make it crystal clear
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 4, 2007 10:19:32 GMT -5
Hmm. But what happens if the slow player is clearly winning?
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Post by Slartucker on Sept 4, 2007 10:38:00 GMT -5
Obviously, the slow play rule is there to avoid having slow players get draws when they should get losses. If a game goes to time and there is a clear winner, it's decided as such. However, if a slow player has a very slight advantage (e.g., they are up a goblin or up 2 life) and they were legitimately slow, they'll lose.
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Post by Rycchus on Sept 4, 2007 10:50:32 GMT -5
I was just wondering what if someone was playing someone they'd expect to lose to, but they happened to get themselves in a good position so slowed right down coz they didn't expect to be able to keep it. (I'm thinking Tali-comeback-a-likes) But I'm probably getting into way too much detail On a related but different note, I'm assuming Force Surrenders are A-OK?
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