Post by awall on Oct 17, 2008 18:25:08 GMT -5
I realized the other day that Disease may need a slight reworking in Panic games. The way it is right now, having D on either hand the turn before Disease gives you a foolproof escape that doesn't have any of the problems associated with the old DPP/PDW escape.
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On turn 6, the defender submits F/F. Either his RH gets paralyzed, giving him a free DFPW on his LH, or his LH gets paralyzed allowing him to cast FFS on his RH. Completing Panic on turn 8 prevents either form of counterspell from blocking DFPW on turn 9, stopping the Disease cold without giving up any sort of initiative.
I suppose this doesn't change much about Disease (it's already a long shot) but I do occasionally find it useful when you can force the defender into the DPP/PDW defense, as you can get off a Lightning Bolt a decent percentage of the time. With Panic, about the only way to use Disease becomes DSFFF/PSDFF, and then follow through with Lightning Bolt rather than Disease if they have D on their uncharmed hand.
Is this acceptable, or should we try to figure out a workaround for this?
Edit: Nevermind, I guess it's not foolproof after all. If the attacker goes P/W on the turn after the clap, he can summon an Ogre. Alternatively, P/S allows him to get Charm off if the defender is foolish enough to actually complete Panic. Still, I'm interested it figuring out what defenses are possible using Panic this way.
DSFFFC
xxxxxC
123456789
xxxxDDFPW
xxxxxFFS
On turn 6, the defender submits F/F. Either his RH gets paralyzed, giving him a free DFPW on his LH, or his LH gets paralyzed allowing him to cast FFS on his RH. Completing Panic on turn 8 prevents either form of counterspell from blocking DFPW on turn 9, stopping the Disease cold without giving up any sort of initiative.
I suppose this doesn't change much about Disease (it's already a long shot) but I do occasionally find it useful when you can force the defender into the DPP/PDW defense, as you can get off a Lightning Bolt a decent percentage of the time. With Panic, about the only way to use Disease becomes DSFFF/PSDFF, and then follow through with Lightning Bolt rather than Disease if they have D on their uncharmed hand.
Is this acceptable, or should we try to figure out a workaround for this?
Edit: Nevermind, I guess it's not foolproof after all. If the attacker goes P/W on the turn after the clap, he can summon an Ogre. Alternatively, P/S allows him to get Charm off if the defender is foolish enough to actually complete Panic. Still, I'm interested it figuring out what defenses are possible using Panic this way.