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Post by Slartucker on Dec 2, 2008 7:15:09 GMT -5
There can't be a perfect solution, but there can be a best solution, if the differences in favorability and quantity of possibilities are substantial.
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Post by saypin on Dec 2, 2008 7:16:02 GMT -5
well if I'll have time I'll show all the possibilities - more than 10 variants
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Post by BioLogIn on Dec 2, 2008 8:22:09 GMT -5
saypin well, you can't move to ogre (PSF), because if opponent goes for PSD, you are likely to cancel ogre and fall behind.
So the only real option FFFF/PPSD, para targets opponent (there is no reason to target self, and targeting nobody is overly risky). Next turn para RH (attempt to break parachain could result in goblin: FFFFCxx/PPSDSFW) - moves both players into FFFFx/PPSDD, where x can be F, P or S.
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Post by wastelin on Dec 2, 2008 9:35:38 GMT -5
True (probably), but probably mirrored by your opponent.
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Post by BioLogIn on Dec 2, 2008 9:49:15 GMT -5
wastelin yeah, most likely. it is 'safe play' for both players. you cannot expect to have a safe way to gain significant advantage from mirrored position after all ) and having para doesn't leave much options to explore from this position.
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Post by xade on Dec 2, 2008 16:32:47 GMT -5
welcome to the para-mirror. Play Succat with para and you'll run into it frequently. The trick I find leads to throwing the P second. But yeah, there's no best play from that situation- It becomes very psychological...
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Post by saypin on Dec 3, 2008 0:26:19 GMT -5
True (probably), but probably mirrored by your opponent. Mirror is a very situational and a risky spell as it breaks your spellflow and puts yourself in a defensing position - so it is used (by me) rarely.
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Post by BioLogIn on Dec 3, 2008 1:27:41 GMT -5
saypin I assume here by 'mirror' he meant 'exactly the same gestures', not 'magic mirror' spell.
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Post by wastelin on Dec 3, 2008 3:03:02 GMT -5
indeed
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Post by saypin on Dec 18, 2008 6:55:34 GMT -5
A permanent MagicMirror - until dispelled/removed you gain immunity to all targeting spells?
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Post by Slartucker on Dec 18, 2008 7:33:49 GMT -5
Mirror can't be made permanent. See the rules
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Post by saypin on Dec 19, 2008 1:51:34 GMT -5
OMG! It is not an Enchantment)))
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Post by mikeEB on Dec 19, 2008 13:00:20 GMT -5
I tried the perm-mirror and perm-counterspell in several configurations here. You cannot ever make a mirror or counterspell permanent, and you cannot use mirror to reflect a spell that happens during a hasted turn. EDIT:...unless both players are hasted.
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Post by BioLogIn on Dec 19, 2008 14:48:00 GMT -5
"you cannot use mirror to reflect a spell that happens during a hasted turn" really? that's a nice one...
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Post by Slartucker on Dec 19, 2008 15:14:05 GMT -5
That sounds extremely fishy. Furthermore, looking at your game, I don't see any place that you tested that.
If warlock A is hasted and warlock B is not, And warlock B casts mirror during the regular turn, During warlock A's hasted turn, the mirror will still be in effect and will work.
This works the same way that shields cast during regular turns last into hasted turns.
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